. >> governor romney has changed his opinion on the dream act and governor chris christie says he has to do something bold and he will do something bold. is this the beginning of seeing bold moves by governor romney? >> he's got to do something. the race is close overall but when you look at the swing states and particularly ohio and florida, he's getting pretty far behind. if he loses both ohio and florida, it's over. but as far as substantively, i have a hard time believing there's going to be a huge big policy announced in a debate. that just doesn't happen. often these small moments -- i knew john f. kennedy. you're likable enough. >> what's interesting, your colleague david jackson, who watches these things found that a new study show -- david jackson does -- that the candidate who blinking the least during the debate is the person who will declared the win senator. >> i'll be counting. that's my job to count the blinks. these things are -- it's amazing. but it also gets back to body language is very important. you go back in history. we all learned how nixon beat kennedy on the